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[rickyhelmore]

To answer the original question, yes.    Just about everyone I know online works at home.    I'm surprised there is any debate on this.    As long as you have the computer with the Internet connection (and whatever software you want to use), it doesn't matter where you are physically located.  

There's really no need to have a separate office unless you have employees working with you or don't like working at home.  

I am very happy with you comments and would like appreciate.    Online business opportunity give you way to earn good money through online business.     

[metalinc99]

Sorry about your situation...

But yes like a lot of peoples here, you can do very good with internet. I've tried a lot of things like, affiliates, mlm and it's working when you put your heart to this (like everything you have done before). There's no secrets here!! .

I have a blog where I discuss some of the things you can check out to be on a good start. You can PM me if you want to know a bit more.

Always be aware of what we read on website when we searching for something. A lot of sites promise you things but we are not always sure what's gonna turn out... When you read "reply" of all peoples here, I think you can find something very good.
Good luck!

[awalston]

Just like your 9 to 5 you must treat your home based business as if you are in the office environment.   Get up get dressed and set goals each day.   Do something to make it happen.   There are many good businesses to work from home but you have to be willing to stay focused.   I have some information for you.   If you are serious send me an e-mail and I will send you some FREE information.

Thanks,
Alice
Awalston1@gmail. om

[sagon-ojt]

I think online home based businesses are not reliable but that does not mean you can't make some money. Also, you do need some small investments in most cases (such as tools for web design, keyword research etc)

But in the long run, with steady determination, you can make some money. Just don't expect it at once. Some peoples took years to it...but they make now over USD100000 per month. But those samples are very rare. If you work from home, work even harder than from your office. Nothing is free, and you spend a lot of time finding out what works and what not.

But don't give up...

R.

[Lisa Preston]

I think online home based businesses are not reliable but that does not mean you can't make some money. Also, you do need some small investments in most cases (such as tools for web design, keyword research etc)

But in the long run, with steady determination, you can make some money. Just don't expect it at once. Some peoples took years to it...but they make now over USD100000 per month. But those samples are very rare. If you work from home, work even harder than from your office. Nothing is free, and you spend a lot of time finding out what works and what not.

But don't give up...

R.

Okay, that was probably the worst answer I've ever read to this kind of question.

YES, home-based businesses are reliable... as reliable as YOU are.
And YES, you can create an online business with zero money (other than your computer and internet connection).
Any tools you may require can be found for free online.
No, you don't have to "work harder than you would at your office". What would be the point??
Will it take work? Yup.
If you are looking for a magic button, there aren't any.
If you need to create enough cash to live on, then you need to be prepared to spend a few hours daily on the task. Choose your business niche, decide on a plan, and TAKE ACTION.
The only thing that can stop you from making money is YOU.
Don't spend weeks "researching". Don't get bogged down in information overload.
Choose a plan that sounds logical and does not promise the moon from respected industry leaders (Google them to see what others think of them) and work the plan.
It really is that simple.

[awalston]

Like anything else you have to trust yourself.    Find a good company and stick with it.    It is possible to start with a small budget.    You must have some money to get started.    Let no one fool you, nothing from nothing leaves 0.  You must put you time in and you will reap a harvest.

Alice

[sagon-ojt]

Thanks Lisa for your comments. I guess by now you are rich without done hard word or any investments.

YES, there are free tools...but do they fit within what you or an online job needs need?

NO, Not harder than working than in the office? Usually online jobs worker do more and work longer than the 8 hours in the office. Your income is NOT guaranteed

I agree only with one with you. You must take action...and in the process you will make mistakes which costs you either real money or time (which is money in the end, too.)

Don't spend weeks researching...well, where are you coming from? If you don't find your niche, every attempt to make money is just for nothing. I hardly disagree with not doing any comprehensive research
Worst answer? Thanks again for that. I make some money. Not much, but also not nothing.

R.

[Lisa Preston]

Thanks Lisa for your comments. I guess by now you are rich without done hard word or any investments.

YES, there are free tools...but do they fit within what you or an online job needs need?

NO, Not harder than working than in the office? Usually online jobs worker do more and work longer than the 8 hours in the office. Your income is NOT guaranteed

I agree only with one with you. You must take action...and in the process you will make mistakes which costs you either real money or time (which is money in the end, too.)

Don't spend weeks researching...well, where are you coming from? If you don't find your niche, every attempt to make money is just for nothing. I hardly disagree with not doing any comprehensive research
Worst answer? Thanks again for that. I make some money. Not much, but also not nothing.

R.

Yes, "worst answer".
The original question was asking, "Are home based online businesses a reliable thing?" You said NO.
You are wrong.
The original post also indicated that he was retired and without an income, asking if there are any home businesses he can do from home.
The answer is, of course, YES.

He did NOT ask how to become "rich" online.

Am I "rich"? No, but I'm comfortable. I work online exclusively, and have for years.

Do I work hard? I really want to say "yes" to that, but the truth is, I don't. I COULD be making way more than I do, but for me, it's about living the life I want, not getting rich.

Did I get where I am now without investments? No, not over time. Anyone with any type of business sense knows that you reinvest your earnings once you begin to profit. The real question should be, "Did I begin my online business without making investments?" And the answer would be YES. I never spent a single dime when I first got started.

There are free tools available for almost ANY type of home-based business to get started making a profit. Hell, you can even do it without a computer or internet connection if you are truly determined! I'm sure there are a select few businesses that would require a tool that costs money, but why would you begin with a business like that if money was an issue?

95% of people who attempt to create a business from home do NOT spend their time online productively. They spend their time reading email, surfing the internet, chatting on messenger... and the other 5% who are being productive spend far less time in actual "money making activities" than they could.

No your income is NOT guaranteed. Your income from an office job isn't guaranteed either. Personally, I prefer knowing that my income is in direct proportion to what I decide to put into my business, and not at the whim of an employer - or the economy.

Choosing a niche takes very little time. No, it's not a 5 minute endeavor, but you can narrow your niche significantly within hours (certainly not weeks!). The "research" I am referring to in my previous post is the "busy work" people create for themselves - downloading and buying up everything they see, spending weeks or even months filling up their hard drive but never actually applying any of the knowledge they acquire. And more likely, never even reading what they download before they are off looking for the next item.

If you are not comfortably making a predictable, full-time income from your online business, don't argue with someone who is - and especially someone who DID start without spending a dime... and someone who works only a couple of hours a day.

[sagon-ojt]

Sorry, you are wrong. I do NOT think a home based business is a reliable thing ESPECIALLY if you are starting out! But that does not mean you can't make money. Ask in your forum how many people think that a home based business IS reliable (again, especially if you start with nothing). I did NOT deny that there are home based businesses he can do..if he has the ability and/or knowledge. There are virtually millions of business opportunities.

Like the Gentlemen, there are many in the same position. If it were true what you said, then most would make money, but most do not. But yes, of course, it depends on determination as well, nobody denies that. I actually agree too that...most spend their time not effectively.

After some time, when you tried several business opportunities, you might find your niche and make SOME money, perhaps enough to live from. But to say home based business is reliable is the same in reverse, as you pointed out, that 9-5 can/is unreliable. 

Once a business is running, you can make predication about its future to some degree, every business can do that.

But back to the Gentlemen. I DO recommend to him to start the online business journey, just do not expect to make money that fast. And there is nothing wrong to download ebooks, courses etc. Somehow he must get the knowledge he need. Books are often more comprehensive although they MAY also have mixed older contents. Same for eBooks. Blogs etc are more up-to-date.

Anyhow, I agree with you, the Internet overload makes it very, very difficult to chose the right path, tools and books. Weeks of research? Of course not. But if you never done that before, it takes naturally much longer than if you know how to do that.

I would start with something you have knowledge at and a topic you love. That would makes things easier. But without proper niche research (even with it) that may not make you enough money...the amount you want. Most starters takes months, if not years to find the right way. You do the wrong niche research, and all of your investments may just lost.

I can only say start it and don't give up too early. And of course, do not buy everything you see. Make Internet research first and then decide later. Even I can't buy everything I love to have...to many choices. But who can?

I think we let have the Gentlemen and others the last word. We both have partially different opinion. If we don't stop here, we are filling the forum with our opinions only.

R.

PS
Seems only a few offered much direct help to the Gentlemen. If he contacts me via PM, we can discuss the things a little bit deeper, with links and support answers he may need. At no costs.

[Lisa Preston]

Sorry, you are wrong. I do NOT think a home based business is a reliable thing ESPECIALLY if you are starting out! But that does not mean you can't make money. Ask in your forum how many people think that a home based business IS reliable (again, especially if you start with nothing). I did NOT deny that there are home based businesses he can do..if he has the ability and/or knowledge. There are virtually millions of business opportunities.

No, sorry... I'm pretty sure I'm right. This question has been asked dozens of times here and everywhere else. I'm sick to death of people regurgitating the crap they hear elsewhere from those who are trying to sell you THEIR quick fix, or "naysay" something because they themselves suck at it.

Like the Gentlemen, there are many in the same position. If it were true what you said, then most would make money, but most do not. But yes, of course, it depends on determination as well, nobody denies that. I actually agree too that...most spend their time not effectively.

Yes? No? What? "Most would make money, but most do not..." but on the other hand you agree that they don't do what needs to get done... Can't have it both ways, Sparky.

After some time, when you tried several business opportunities, you might find your niche and make SOME money, perhaps enough to live from. But to say home based business is reliable is the same in reverse, as you pointed out, that 9-5 can/is unreliable. 

Seriously, now I get why you don't make much money. You FIRST choose a niche. THEN apply your business plan of choice. You don't randomly start different business opportunities and hope you somehow land on a profitable niche! It's not "Pin The Tail On The Donkey"!

As for reliability, I would MUCH rather have my financial fate under my own control than at the whim of someone else. A solid business plan applied properly and consistently will reap stable, measurable and reliable results. The question of reliability has nothing to do with the ineptitude of someone attempting it.

But back to the Gentlemen. I DO recommend to him to start the online business journey, just do not expect to make money that fast. And there is nothing wrong to download ebooks, courses etc. Somehow he must get the knowledge he need. Books are often more comprehensive although they MAY also have mixed older contents. Same for eBooks. Blogs etc are more up-to-date.

Like I said - he wasn't asking how to get rich. He simply wants an income he can live on. I would never tell someone to start overloading on ebooks and courses. If someone is serious about starting a business online, the smartest thing to do is get a mentor - someone who is already a success who can steer you in the right direction. There are many such experts right here on this forum, as a matter of fact.

I would start with something you have knowledge at and a topic you love. That would makes things easier. But without proper niche research (even with it) that may not make you enough money...the amount you want. Most starters takes months, if not years to find the right way. You do the wrong niche research, and all of your investments may just lost.

Again - no one is looking for a "quick fix" here. If it takes you months or years to become profitable, you are doing it wrong. As I said before - niche research can be done within a day or so for someone serious about getting their business off the ground.

I think we let have the Gentlemen and others the last word. We both have partially different opinion. If we don't stop here, we are filling the forum with our opinions only.

Yeah... my opinion is worth restating. And I can back it up with experience. Plus, it's always been my goal to fill the forum with my opinions.

PS
Seems only a few offered much direct help to the Gentlemen. If he contacts me via PM, we can discuss the things a little bit deeper, with links and support answers he may need. At no costs.

Contacting you via PM sort of undermines the whole idea of an open exchange of ideas on a forum. If you have further resources to share, feel free - it's what this forum is here for.

If the OP needs a mentor, there are dozens available here... I know Tony takes on select clients, and so do I (and no, not "free". My time is valuable to me, and when people pay me to consult with them, it shows that they value my time AND their own.)

[sagon-ojt]

I do not agree with some of your new statements but I do stop here. As I said, I want other peoples exchange their ideas without going into our discussion. Just as per the tutor, I met another Gentlemen who has spent thousands (including tutors) and got nowhere. He lost virtually all the money. The reason is that of course nobody knows exactly who IS A GOOD TUTOR (paid or not). You know how many are on the net who claim they are.

I do not know if you are a good tutor or not, so I do not discuss THAT issue. I give you the points that you are a good tutor. That ends that discussion.

I agree that forum discussion should be lively and should be used rather than PMs. But I'm not interested to discuss every word I say in this forum with you like I want to give something free and you want to get paid for it. Fine. Fullstop. (Both is acceptable)

No need to reply to this letter again. Again, let other peoples say what say think. I have the feeling that you are twisting the meaning of what I said by not reading exactly what I wrote. I get tired of that. I'm not here to write everyday a new letter to you.

But nevertheless, I will visit this forum (which is otherwise excellent) and help if I can, but please spare me future discussions with you regarding this topic. That ends to nothing. Our positions are clear for now, or?

I hope we can agree on that. And yes, I like to fill this forum with my opinion as well...but not daily 

R.

[Lisa Preston]

Yes, you're probably right about that... no point in continuing to discuss this with you if you refuse to listen to what I'm saying.

It's not rocket science.

There are dozens of proven successful mentors available right on this forum, and hundreds (if not) elsewhere online. You don't blindly fork over your hard-earned cash to anyone until you know they fit your requirements.

As for "twisting the meaning of what you say", I went to great lengths to quote you directly when answering you. While I can appreciate that your original response was intended to be helpful to the original poster, your subsequent replies seemed to waffle back and forth between trying to stick with what you said originally and qualifying or backtracking on previous statements.

Whatever.

Feel free to NOT reply to this post - there is no law that says you have to. You were incorrect, we can leave it at that. As an Admin on this forum (second only to Tony Blake, the owner), I consider it my duty to share my opinions - daily, hourly, weekly - whenever they are needed.