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[StompedNet]

What did Brad Fallon do that lead Andy Jenkins into filing a lawsuit? Disturbing stuff.
You can get a free PDF copy of the lawsuit with the dirty details at http://stompednet.com/

Nothing to buy.
No squeeze page.

Just a public service to the online marketing community.

[MarketingJunkie]

That lawsuit is AMAZING in so many ways.

First of all, if you read this 6,720 word "essay" of why Andy Jenkins left StomperNet, you'd think all was well in StomperLand.

But I've heard several rumors of StomperNet being in receivership status... so I asked Andy Jenkens 3 times about the rumors at this Warrior Froum thread (which he hijacked by the way to help out fellow "guru" Mike Filsaime who was getting slammed with bad comments about AffiliateJump). Andy refused to deny or confirm the receivership question I asked him.

Not surprisingly, the entire thread was deleted. And I was permanently banned from the Warrior Forum (again).

It's stunning how these guys squeeze lipstick on their pigs. Everything from faked PayPal account balances to glowing endorsements from the big boys at the top is all BS it seems.

These psychopaths (yes, marketers with missing brain matter who have no empathy for their victims) need to be stopped. Legitimate information publishers like us are getting dinged with lower sales because these clowns have totally eliminated any trust of doing business online.

It's a shame too because StomperNet used to be awesome. Just keep a careful eye on those who are leaving and who's replacing them. It's a mess.

[MarketingJunkie]

Here's more on this -- I hate anything to do with law so I'm not up on the lingo, but it looks like they worked things out:

Disposition: 07/30/2009 - DISMISSED WITH PREJUDICE

Source: http://www.fcclkjudicialsearch.org/Scripts/UVlink.isa/tsgdb1/WEBSERV/PUBCivilSearch?action%253Dview%26track%253D644476

The question I have is, how do you find if StomperNet is under receivership?

This is so unbelievable to me... "The biggest launch in IM history"... and "We're doing so well, we're giving Mark Joyner a $3 million bonus as a surprise!"

Now, the date of 7/30/2009 is VERY telling... it's about 5 days before Andy Jenkins decided to "retire" and move west to San Diego. Proof: http://www.warriorforum.com/main-internet-marketing-discussion-forum/107386-andy-jenkins-leaving-stompernet.html

I love how everyone outside of StomperNet spins this -- take a look at this:

"While many people are trying to spin this into something sinister, decipher hidden meanings or look at someone leaving a high-flying internet marketing company as negative - in my mind, exactly the opposite is true." Source: http://www.highertrustmarketing.com/blog/internet-marketing/andy-jenkins-leaves-stompernet-and-thats-great/

Oh really? No hidden meaning, eh? Give me a break.

Do we understand why when you ask the average person on the street to describe the word marketing, they say "lies"?

[MarketingJunkie]

Not surprised... the Warrior Forum deleted the thread about this StomperNet lawsuit:
http://www.warriorforum.com/test-forum/115406-stompernet-lawsuit.html

And there's more. Read this post:

"One part of the ad campaign that scared me off was the promotion of the RichJerk (Kelly Felix). During the pre-launch he made a claim that he now had a financially controlling interest in StomperNet. I quickly shot off an email to them asking about this. The most troubling part was that I never received a reply! Either they didn't want to answer it, or their suport system was sadly lacking. There was no other alternative. If it was not true this would have been a serious enough matter to have prompted a major lawsuit."

Source: http://www.pickaguru.com/misc-stomper.html

Wow! This sure seems like a train wreck. Hard not to look, eh?

[StompedNet]

Here's more on this -- I hate anything to do with law so I'm not up on the lingo, but it looks like they worked things out:

Disposition: 07/30/2009 - DISMISSED WITH PREJUDICE

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A hearing was scheduled for August 11th.  The spin is that the buyout occurred on or about June 24th.  A voluntary dismissal with prejudice had to be part of the settlement deal.  This case was not tried on the merits.

[MarketingJunkie]

Man o' man this never ends.

I was searching Twitter to see if anyone else knows about this StomperNet lawsuit... and found this:

internetlaw4u: StomperNet lawsuit. Why Andy left Brad? http://stompednet.com/

I couldn't believe it. It hit me all at once...

... Of course the Twitter user internetlaw4u is none other than the Global Moderator here Mike Young. So I'm thinking to myself, "Is Mike Young the owner of stompednet.com?"

I rush to check the WHOIS record of stompednet.com, and it's (of course) anonymous... but something stuck out to me like a sore thumb... the creation date -- yesterday.

So what happened yesterday?

Coincidentally, yesterday I confronted Andy Jenkins 3 times via the Warrior Forum (as I've said above) about the fact that I heard StomperNet was in receivership.

I can imagine the chaos... Andy is flipping out about this... somehow tracks down someone who recommends Mike Young and strategizes to quickly put out a website about a lawsuit that no one knows about to make Andy look like the victim BEFORE the StomperNet receivership news hits the street.

Again folks... look at the timing. Look at the website (it probably took 3 minutes to create). And look at how benefits.

I confront Andy last night...
He denies StomperNet being in receivership 3 times...
The Warrior Forum deletes every single post about it...
Bans my account (for spam).

All of the while, Mike Young anonymously creates a website busting Brad Fallon as a kook -- making it seem like Brad Fallon stole money and prevented StomperNet from being able to pay their bills.

Isn't odd that (we're told) the most successful business in Internet Marketing -- generating tens and tens of millions of dollars... is in trouble over $100,000? That's smells ODD to me.

This is ALL making so much sense now.

I wonder if this thread will get deleted shortly (and my account banned). Time to take PDF snapshots.

And by the way, I'm now 100% sure the username of StompedNet is indeed Mike Young... oops... he made an edit and it shows up under the original post:

« Last Edit: Today at 06:22:28 AM by Mike Young »

It never ends in guruland, does it?

HOLY CRAP! I know who to call if I ever get into deep water -- Mike Young.

[Mike Young]

« Last Edit: Today at 06:22:28 AM by Mike Young »

Newbies on this forum can't post hyperlinks. If you copied and pasted StompedNet's attempt to link, it would redirect in your browser to StomperNet's blog despite the text showing StompedNet.com

As a moderator, I edited the link to make it work.

Nothing sinister. No comment on the underlying lawsuit at this time.

-Mike

[MarketingJunkie]

« Last Edit: Today at 06:22:28 AM by Mike Young »

Newbies on this forum can't post hyperlinks. If you copied and pasted StompedNet's attempt to link, it would redirect in your browser to StomperNet's blog despite the text showing StompedNet.com

As a moderator, I edited the link to make it work.

Nothing sinister. No comment on the underlying lawsuit at this time.

-Mike

Actually Mike. I believe you -- except for the sinister part. I'll get to that in a moment.

Because the post would have been edited by the username, not your real name.

I apologize for connecting the improper dots (although I'm still concerned about the timing and the who part).

So now I'm 99.9% sure "StompedNet" is the one and only Andy Jenkins himself. I say that because of the time of post... 10:44 p.m. It looks like the timestamp on this forum is 4 hours ahead of NY time. So that would mean the post would have started at here at 2:44 a.m. east coast time... right around when the Warrior Forum thread got deleted.

It's all making sense now... StompedNet most likely is Andy Jenkins (or someone VERY close to him). He's protecting himself. I get it.

If that's true, I wonder if he'll apologize me for calling me a kook yesterday.

And I wonder if he'll shorten his 6,700+ word essay into a single sentence:

I left StomperNet because I was robbed by Brad Fallon.

It should be a VERY interesting period of time until 9/9/09.

[TruthBeTold]

MarketingJunkie,

No business retains every dollar of revenue they've ever received in their checking accounts.

StomperNet has made substantial investments in IT infrastructure and other areas - this is not a secret.  Go price a full-blown enterprise license for Telligent's Community Server some time, make sure you include all the vendor support packages too, then do some math on hiring enough developers to build a learning management system.

Content costs money.  People cost money.  It's not evil to invest in growing your business.  It's stupid not to.  It's exactly what most of the people in this marketplace do not do.  If these guys aren't riding around in his-and-hers yachts on a private island, they're frauds? Shame on them for putting money back into the business.  How dare they think of creating something big?

It definitely is worth asking "in whose interest" regarding that web site, this post, etc.  It is not likely that Mike Young has anything to do with it, because he does what he does publicly, and isn't afraid to take a stand and put his name on what he publishes.  It's also not in Brad or Andy's interests to have their past squabbles (clearly settled already) playing out in public.

Spin it however you want but it is what it is.

[SimonJCP]

Hi TruthBeTold (aka Ttrogg):

It definitely is worth asking "in whose interest" regarding that web site, this post, etc.   It is not likely that Mike Young has anything to do with it, because he does what he does publicly, and isn't afraid to take a stand and put his name on what he publishes.

Unless, of course, it would allow us to connect the dots as MarketingJunkie has already done quite completely and excellently.  Notice that Young hasn't actually denied being behind StompedNet.  Being public about it would have made a bust too easy.

If StompedNet wasn't Mike Young, then he/she/it would have been here by now telling us that, and telling us who he/she/it really is!

[TruthBeTold]

My money is on Markus Allen as the owner of that site.  Just a hunch from connecting dots, though.

[MarketingJunkie]

Spin it however you want but it is what it is.

Spin? Yes. Me -- read on.

Yes, I'm Markus Allen. No, it's not my site.

I don't think you know me. I don't spin.

I've called myself a douchbag publicly when I've done something wrong.
And I'm sure I'll call myself worse when I create another mistake. I make mistakes. But I admit to them.

I don't spin.
I do connect dots.

Onward.

Let me give you some quick background here.

I was discussing a fraudulent new launch called Affiliate Jump (from Mike Filsaime). And yes, it's a FRAUD. You won't see ANY guru touch it with a 1,000 foot kangaroo pole. Even Mike Filsaime's blog doesn't mention a word of Affiliate Jump -- take a look (as I write this):

http://www.mikefilsaime.com/blog4

In fact, Affiliate Jump is probably the biggest ripoff since Arbitrage Conspiracy... and guess who masterminded that? Yep, StomperNet.

Back on track:

As the angry crowd posted at the Warrior Forum, Andy Jenkins came to Mike's rescue. While I respect him sticking up for his friend, he did it in a slimy way (the post is deleted so I can share that with you).

So I directly asked him about StomperNet being in receivership -- I have a friend who is getting the shaft from Brad Fallon and he let me know about this "secret." I tried 3 times to get an answer and Andy ignored me -- blatantly (because he replied to everyone else but me on thread). That's when I knew my friend was right about receivership.

That's what this is about.

It's called spin.

And right now, Andy appears to be throwing Brad under the bus.

I admit it's FASCINATING. I'm getting absolutely no work done now.

[TruthBeTold]

Arbitrage Conspiracy. . .  and guess who masterminded that? Yep, StomperNet.

If you had connected the dots or at least figured out what's behind the black ink on that PDF, you'd know better.

[MarketingJunkie]

HOLY CRAP... look at this folks:



And there you have it... proof that Andy Jenkins is the author of the PDF... created minutes before creating his StompedNet site.

Andy has officially thrown Clifford (that's Brad Fallon's real first name) under the bus.

[TruthBeTold]

Wow, impressive, you learned how to type a name into your scanning software.