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« on: June 27, 2008, 11:24:15 AM »

I'm using the following web site as an example in a course I'm teaching, and I have the site owner's permission to download and save it for people in the course, but the three methods I know to save the site don't work!

Here's the site:  www.storiesthatmove.com

I have a program that downloads sites and it won't download this site.  "Save as" in the IE browser doesn't work, either, and when I try to import the site into Front Page and save it, it turns into garbage.

So how in the world was this site constructed?  The pages don't end in .htm or .html, which might be why they won't download.

Any solutions??  My goal is to be able to let course participants view the site on CD.  Most other sites download fine.

Thanks so much.

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« Reply #1 on: June 27, 2008, 01:25:05 PM »

Marcia

You would need to download the site using an ftp program - this would then keep the directory structure in order and you can then view the various files via your PC.

To do this you would have to have the owners ftp login details - it would also help (though not necessary) to have the same software which was used to originally create the site.

The reason the pages don't end in .html etc - is that they are merely links to a folder where the page which shows is the default index.html file.  This does away with naming a page with a .html extension but does mean that you need a separate folder for each link page.

Hope this helps a a little.
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« Reply #2 on: June 27, 2008, 09:43:14 PM »

Try typing in the name of the page at the end...
For instance, if you visit a page and it's like this in the address bar:

http://www.domainname.com/pagename

... try adding the /index.html at the end like so:

http://www.domainname.com/pagename/index.html

If the page shows up, you got the right extension. If not, try index.htm, index.php and index.asp.
You SHOULD be able to "Save As" from that point.

Last resort, check the source code for clues.

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« Reply #3 on: June 27, 2008, 11:45:07 PM »

It looks like each page is it's own folder (why doesn't it end in htm or html).  A strange way to create a site though, but that's what it looks like.

All the CSS is on each page vs being in it's own file.


Other than ftp, you could in IE do a View>source, then save to a folder called storyetc.  then save all images to a folder called images.  And then each of "the pages" go into their own folder. 

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« Reply #4 on: June 28, 2008, 01:02:30 AM »

Hi

I would think anything other than ftp for the complete site would be a nightmare - at least that way you get the complete structure, image folders, correct links, style sheets, etc., etc.  It would also be done in "one fell swoop" rather than having to create each folder manually and file save each page individually.  Or maybe I'm just lazy!!

A lot of people (and I still don't know why) use the separate folder method on their sites to avoid having a .html extension showing in a link.  Fair enough if you had to actually type the address in manually - but from the site they are all clickable links so I can't see the point.

Just my thoughts . . . . .
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« Reply #5 on: June 28, 2008, 05:04:39 AM »

I used Fire Fox and Saved Page As.. worked no problem. I opened the page in Dreamweaver and looked good. Maybe yet another reason to use Fire Fox? hehehe The main page is a htm file.

Not sure why you folks are saying to use a ftp program. That is for uploading and downloading from a server, which means you need to log into the server with a ID and password, not something you can do with some one else's site. Maybe you thinking of a web site ripper type program?
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« Reply #6 on: June 28, 2008, 05:41:49 AM »

Sorry Ron

But the OP is about using the complete site for teaching purposes - Marcia has the owner's permission to download and use it.

If we were talking "pirate" or "ripper" or whatever you understood, then yes, you could use "view source" etc, etc.  Fortunately though - we are helping solve a legitimate query.

ftp is the way to go - in my opinion.

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« Reply #7 on: June 28, 2008, 06:09:20 AM »

Thanks to everyone for the suggestions!

I do not feel comfortable asking this person for her ftp password.  I know I wouldn't give it out in similar circumstances.

Someone on another board suggested the program httrack.com - he tried it on the site in question and it worked.

Thanks again!

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« Reply #8 on: June 28, 2008, 06:22:00 AM »

Jo,

I understand completely what the post was about. As I said, FTP requires confidential information of some one's else server, and as Marcia concluded, not something to ask for. I also understand that there was permission granted, permission to use, which of course does not mean the person would be given secure information for a server log-in. Hardly any one would give that information out..Smiley

I don't know where you came up with "pirate". A site ripper is a legitimate and easy way to download a website, files, folders and all. httrack is exactly one of those programs.
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« Reply #9 on: June 28, 2008, 07:17:09 AM »

OK Ron

My first thoughts of Marcia's opening paragraph

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I have the site owner's permission to download and save it for people in the course


were to mean "I have the site owner's permission to download and save it for people in the course" - that to me means ftp access to the site to download.  After qualification from Marcia - I am  obviously wrong!

Personally, if I had granted such permission, I would either give that information OR allow some method to retrieve the site data if I was the site owner.  If you know anyone well enough to ask (and be granted) permission to download their site - I think you would be trusted with those details.  But that's another story.

I came up with "pirate" (to make a point) and "ripper" (yes, I know what they are) and "view source" (the easy way) because under normal circumstances for any of "us" (without permission from the site owner) to attempt to download pages from the site, by whatever means is just "not on".

I sincerely apologise if I got that initial statement wrong - but all my subsequent ramblings were based on that.

Thankfully everything appears to have been solved!  I am pleased! For everyone!

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